people
confuse me. and i have so many thoughts on this subject i can barely keep them straight and conformed. what spurred this post is the conversation i just had with cj/joanna (i’m pretty sure they both were in on it, but who can tell anymore. since they’re not fighting today joanna’s defending him so they would basically say the same thing.) i’m so filled with frustration right now at her inability to even recall the feelings she has had in the past so that she could just understand why i feel this way. until now i hadn’t felt any animosity towards any of them specifically but right now i’m extremely pissed. i can’t believe that joanna would blast me for saying things to bobbi that she had said to me a thousand times. how can she not understand the need for release and objective discussion? she sounds exactly like him, EXACTLY like him. it’s funny how they’re arguments are so similar.
i just want to lay out exactly what my beef is right now. right at this specific moment becuz just hours ago it was completely different. i had absolutely no anger towards cj or joanna, it was more of a general frustration with the world and a purposeful disliking for everyone in it. joanna doesn’t understand that i had a lot of animosity and disagreement for everything that cj did to her during their relationship. she and cj brought me into a LOT of their fights, and all i wanted to do was help, and i did so successfully on several occasions, but i also did my shair of causing fights. that’s not the point here tho, the point is that i was involved with their shit and i couldn’;t talk to either becuz cj was so pigheaded and joanna would change her mind so frequently to coincide with cj’s apologies. so i turned to bobbi. she was literally the only alternative. and she was objective. now i get shit for doing that? i said nothing joanna hadn’t said to me. ui’m having a harsd time concentrating here, i took like 10 cold pills. all of that old forgotten animosity seems to have been reawakened. my experiment failed, i tried being a dickhead and waited for the love, and it never came. i have no devoted girlfriend or wife, no symbiotic best friend. all that has happened was loss. i lost 3 friends. one very god friend who seems to have turned on me. such is life i suppose. but you know what, you’re all right. i am a lousy friend, i put all my problems on everyone else, even when i explicitly say that it’s not their fault, which i don’t understand. just take every single bad thing you’ve ever thoyught about me and consider it justified. if i haven’t done enough to make it true let me know and i’ll put it on my to-do list. oh, and i was always secretly in love with both joanna and ginger. woohoo more reason to hate jr. what else.. i don’t know that i can bear this anymore. i just can’t believe the 180 joanna did tonight. oh how i wish i had saved all our chats so i could show her how absurd it is for her to defend him. but such is life. i was never a very good friend to any of you anyway. i mean i may have helped you occasionally when it suited my needs but the bad shit i did far outweighed that right? so why worry about what i’m doing now? why worry about qwhat comes next? the next step!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-
Anonymous User
5 hours later
-
Floris Leenders
16 hours, 11 minutes later
i dont consider u a bad friend. so im not quite sure where this is coming from.. i know cj said it a few times… but u know how capricious he can get. u are not a bad person, u just doubt yourself too much, for some reason youve lost all self esteem.. u need to refind it cause its killing u bit by bit. like i said earlier a vacation might needed. go and visit bobbi maybe, or possibly get away from everything and everyone u know for a little bit. i think it may help. u have a lot of stress.. i dont know, just go out in the world, talk to people, dont keep yourself shut in so much. i think youll be suprised by how nice people really are.
-
CJ West
16 hours, 57 minutes later
Are you coming back or not? I’m not even gonna mess around anymore. Shit I’m really tired of this, Basically my friendship with JR is close to being over. I guess there hasn’t been one for a long time. I don’t really want one anymore anyway.
-
JR Smith
17 hours, 50 minutes later
spare a drop or two of your precious friendship for a poor beggar sir. please sir have pity on me, please. shine ya shoes gubnah? clean as a whistle and sharp as a thistle i am gubnah. i don’t care about you. i don’t care about anyone. caring is a disease, and i have finally put mine in remission. onward to greater things.. no wait, there is nothing more, so onward to the end. that seems somehow ironic. onward to the end. will you come to the funeral? no, becuz you’re not invited. fuck you.
-
CJ West
18 hours, 8 minutes later
Friendship is a special thing and you know that. You complain about not having it. I know you never cared about me. The thing is I cared about you, it hurts to help someone and be attacked afterwards, you can’t say that it wasn’t an attack cuz you singled my name out of the rest. And you can say that I didn’t help you when you know I would talk to you alot about bobbi I refrained from telling her about your emotions and your mindset at the time. Someone caring about you is precious.
-
JR Smith
18 hours, 19 minutes later
look who’s playing the selfless samaritan now. you don’t care about me, you care about your link to the past and all your evil deeds from governor’s school. you need someone to reminisce with. looks like floris is all you have left now.
-
JR Smith
18 hours, 22 minutes later
you’re always so worried about how you come across in the argument, how the things you did are justified, how the things you say are right, even when they’re not, you never pay any attention to the underlying issues that are bigger than your precious rightiousness. this was my doing, it had nothing to do with anyone else until the two of you decided to make it that way. you took it personally when it was not. so i said those things on this site this time instead of privately or i posted chats that contained negatiove things about you. big fucking deal. i know for a fact you’ve said worse things about me. what does it matter that yours are private and mine are public?
-
CJ West
18 hours, 39 minutes later
You talk about making thing non-personal, You singled me out you talked about my character. Now if all I wanted was a link to the past I wouldn’t have talked to you about your suicide and whatnot cuz hey that has nothing to do with our past does it. When I have I absolved myself of anything is our argument? And what argument, you are so bent on making me look like a villian. The fact of the matter you made a private thing between two people who confided in you public. It was Joanna and CJ’s relationship you dicussed with bobbi. By this time you were no longer giving advice so why would you need an objective view of Our relationship. When you criticize someone they are gonna fight back.
-
JR Smith
18 hours, 59 minutes later
have you no concept of dates? i talked to bobbi as it was happening. that’s what those numbers in the file names mean. they are dates. anyway none of this matters anymore. maybe it never did.
Hey JR, I really hope everything is going ok, I havent checked out your page in a while, and noticed that its changed a fair bit! Anyways make sure you email me sometime, I am going away for a while down to Sydney, so yea, email me and let me know how things r going!